I'm getting shocked when plugged in to shore power!!

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Re: I'm getting shocked when plugged in to shore power!!

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They swapped the hot (black) with the neutral (white). I don't know if it is the cause of your problem, but it is an issue that you need to resolved. Whoever wired the 15 A receptacles and the plug under the 30 A one is not doing their job. I really think you hired the same fellow as 69camero did :lol:

If you have a 30A to 15 amp adapter, you can test the TT-30 receptacle with your tester. If you do not have one, you can plug in your rig, and then test the 15A outlet outside with the tester. I am very confident that Trail Wagons did not mess up their wiring, so if you see the same reversed polarity there, then the TT-30 receptacle is also messed up. (be very careful now that you knew there is a problem, in fact, I suggest you don't do this at all and try to fix the receptacle first)

A good home inspector should have spotted this issue before you brought the house... don't tell me you build the place yourself... i will shut up if that is the case.

It is possible there are other issues with your electrical, but I know that reverse polarity do give you a nasty shock. It is because most appliance switch the hot wire. So if you have an appliance to a receptacle with reversed polarity, power is being sent to everything. With your rig, even with your 30A breaker flipped, you are still have live voltage all over the rig because of a reversed polarity at the receptacle. This is because the breaker only disconnect the black/hot wire. So when you wife call you to make sure you are safe, you scream back and say "yes, honey, I got every breakers flipped in the AC panel box!" imagine the surprise you have when you touch the neutral wire, and make her into a wealthy widow.

When you are washing the rig, there is probably something that is turned off, but have the neutral connected to the ground (green). Since the reversed polarity, the 110V AC is flow down all over the circuit/rig, and jump over to the ground/green, and since the chassis frame is very likely grounded, you got the nice shocked that you have.

I am not a licensed electrician, so take my word with bag of salt. I think the ground should not connect to the neutral at Chinook AC panel, or any sub-panel in your house, but it is connected at the main breaker panel at your house for safety reason. You may want to check the AC panel in your rig as well as your sub-panel, if you have any. Hire someone who is competent, and have insurance, and never anyone on the Internet. And if you have to touch the AC, make sure you flip the breakers... oh wait, I forget that it is not going to help you in your case...
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Re: I'm getting shocked when plugged in to shore power!!

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Flame wrote: October 2nd, 2020, 1:24 pm I do have it plugged into a 30 amp receptical. I am not using a adapter. I put a volt meter to the "little" ground wire or secondary ground...whatever you call it...and it reads 8 volts. So something is going on. I have this wiring run from my shop next to the carport I keep the rv parked under. I do not know if the 3rd wire ground is hooked up through all my shop recepticals and all the way back to my breaker box. Can I just drive another seperate ground rod in the ground next to the rv plug and tie to it to get proper grounding??
1) I suggest reading something like the link below about testing outlets if you're going to try to figure things out yourself. Note that article is for normal 15/20 Amp outlets, so a reading from neutral to ground of 8 volts with a 30 amp outlet might be within normal range, or not, I don't know.
https://www.ecmweb.com/content/article/ ... receptacle

2) I believe the 30 amp outlet should have its own wiring (larger than normal) including ground back to the main panel, with a larger circuit breaker there. Do NOT add a separate ground rod!!

The ground must go back to the house panel where it gets connected to neutral (and the house ground rod). Multiple grounding paths are bad.

3) Given it is your house wiring you're talking about, rather than the RV, I personally would hire a master electrician to come out and test everything. Make sure that he knows you have a 30 Amp outlet for the RV and that he has worked on them before (to me, him having experience means more than his saying he's been trained and knows all that stuff).

My 2 cents,
Bob
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Re: I'm getting shocked when plugged in to shore power!!

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I agree with Bob that you should get a qualified electrician and take a look. This whole thing is not related to Chinook, but rather is related to your home. The site is not home improvement web site, and furthermore, none of us have any qualification and can afford the liability to be able to give you any instruction or information, so I really think you should get professional help on this, since you are not comfortable with working with the AC.
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Re: I'm getting shocked when plugged in to shore power!!

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I somehow got yall thinking it is tied in to my house. It is not. But it is tied in to the breaker box in my shop and runs over to the carport where the rv is parked. The carport was here when we bought the place and had electricity run to it already from another source, anyway...thank you all for your advise. I had a electrician come out this morning and he already has me fixed up!! There WAS a OPEN ground and...several recepticals in line were reversed polarity. No more shocky and no more 8 volts at that wire either!! At first I didn't know if it was something in the rv or not. That is why I posted on this forum. Thanks again for your help. My little tester shows GOOD on ALL recepticals now!!
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